Ai Weiwei: ‘Nothing scares me anymore—being terrified does not help’ – The Art Newspaper

The Chinese language artist and activist Ai Weiwei continues to be on the coronary heart of main political and world occasions. Born in Beijing in 1957, he’s among the many most well-known artists on the planet, principally as a result of activism that led him to be incarcerated in his native China for months with out cost in 2011. His most well-known works embody the photographic sequence Research of Perspective (1995-2017), exhibiting middle-finger salutes to well-known landmarks, and an unlimited sunflower seed set up at London’s Tate Fashionable in 2010.

Ai has lately unveiled a significant new fee in Kyiv in Ukraine (till 30 November). The only work exhibition—Three Completely Proportioned Spheres and Camouflage Uniforms Painted White—includes three spheres enveloped in camouflaged cloth dotted with pictures of animals. The material varieties a connective construction throughout the spheres.

The work is “a site-specific response to the escalating armed conflicts threatening the world of at present”, in keeping with an announcement from Ribbon Worldwide, the non-profit cultural platform that commissioned the set up. In August, Ai travelled to the entrance line of the warfare in jap Ukraine close to Kharkiv, the place he met Ukrainian fighters and cultural figures. We spoke to Ai forward of his Ukrainian intervention at his studio in rural Portugal.

The Artwork Newspaper: How lengthy have you ever been in Portugal?

Ai Weiwei: In a five-year interval I’ve spent a yr and a half right here, perhaps a yr in Berlin, perhaps a yr in Cambridge [UK]. The remainder of the time I’m in between. Clearly I’ve been compelled out of my rooted land [China], however I don’t really feel unhappy about it as a result of if you’re on this street, you aren’t on that [other] street. I at all times settle for my scenario as a result of my father [the poet Ai Qing] was exiled for 20 years and he’s an ideal instance of how a person can settle for a scenario. Collectively we lived on this black gap [an underground dugout in Xinjiang province where Ai and his father lived in forced exile in the 1960s].

Is your mom nonetheless alive?

My mom’s nonetheless alive, she’s 92. I haven’t seen her for ten years, however I’m planning to return to China. I nonetheless have a Chinese language passport. I by no means modified it. I travelled over 300 instances throughout totally different nations with a Chinese language passport, which may be very troublesome.

However received’t you be arrested?

I don’t see the following step fairly often. I make some large selections however can’t say what is going to come after. I get pleasure from simply making one transfer—a strong transfer.

Inform us about your experiences in Ukraine.

I went to Ukraine to see the [battle] fields and the drones. It’s simply surprising. Standing in the course of the wheat fields I noticed all these unusual, unusual objects. You see the bomb simply landed within the fields in a suburb of Kyiv. You see [the field] is burnt. That’s a Russian bomb. I attempted to do the whole lot to know this nation—what are they preventing for, who they’re preventing with, and the way they keep this concept of dignity and shield their nationwide satisfaction. It’s so harsh. I went to the entrance—essentially the most harmful entrance line. Now over 90% of casualties in warfare are carried out by drones; that is fashionable warfare.

[Ai shows an image of an ancient artefact with a piece of shrapnel]. So that is a part of a bomb or a missile. I put it along with a bit of jade, which is from the Han Dynasty. I wish to carry this artefact from 2,000 years in the past to witness what occurs to human society at present.

Did you additionally plant sunflower seeds in a discipline in Kharkiv?

Sure, I did. It appears ridiculous. I buried some sunflower seeds and a few buttons there. If you witness a severe act, you don’t at all times realise the which means behind it. I simply suppose I’ve to behave out a ceremony; you need to discover a solution to handle your feelings since you’re getting too severe.

Did you get pleasure from assembly the Ukrainian individuals?

I really like them. They’re very honest. They desperately want individuals to know their scenario, however on the similar time they actually see you as a buddy. All of us want somebody.

I can present you the way [the Ukrainian soldiers] work in a secret basement. They’re looking for the goal. They usually talk with the management centre. You may see the pictures of drones. This can be very harmful because the Russians are utilizing the identical ways. It’s only a 10 sq. m area.

Have been you frightened in that room?

By no means. Nothing scares me any extra. I feel try to be scared as a result of it appears in the event you’re not so scared, fairly often individuals suppose you’re not honest. I perceive. However being scared and being honest will not be on the identical stage. I wished to know what’s actually occurring. How do they kill one another? And I needed to keep within the room; you can’t exit as a result of the Russian drones can hit you any second. Being terrified doesn’t assist.

Which works will you present in Ukraine?

I’m doing a piece known as the Sunflower Practice. The trains [in Ukraine] are very spectacular, this Russian-type practice, it’s the primary approach of travelling.So I made a sunflower portray from Lego utilizing Van Gogh’s vocabulary. It’s wrapped [around the train] and on prime there’s a Russian drawing. I’m so joyful Ukrainian individuals wish to make the practice. Piece by piece, the work shall be constructed within the railway stations. Individuals can add issues, making the which means very totally different.

Inside there’s a [reproduction of a] well-known social realism portray by a [Ukrainian-born] Russian painter [Reply of the Zaporozhian Cossacks by Ilya Repin]. I noticed this portray after I was ten years previous, my father confirmed it to me. That’s why I deeply love the portray. It pertains to the warfare, artwork historical past and my private expertise. [The train will travel to all main stations in Ukraine, except for those in occupied areas].

Three Completely Proportioned Spheres and Camouflage Uniforms Painted White—the centrepiece in Ukraine—is predicated on a prototype you created a number of years in the past entitled Divina Proportione.

These garments [encasing the spheres] appear like navy clothes. However they reveals cats. They’re buttoned collectively to make a form and painted white. The exhibition is in Pavilion 13, in-built Soviet instances in Kyiv. You may see the constructing is sort of like a Mies van der Rohe constructing.

Is your present in Ukraine a political assertion?

It’s a extremely political assertion about warfare and peace, rationality and irrationality. We have to have peace to ensure the integrity of the individuals. As a result of in any other case it’s not peace. Peace isn’t slavery. I don’t know when [the war] goes to complete. It’s a lengthy tunnel. I need the warfare to finish as a result of so many lives have been wasted. Ultimately they [Russia and Ukraine] have to take a seat down to speak. No person needs to surrender.

Two years in the past you posted a tweet in regards to the Israel-Hamas warfare that was controversial [he was accused of antisemitism and deleted the tweet]. What do you are feeling about that scenario now?

I did what I ought to. And that sacrifice may be very little in comparison with all the lives misplaced and in comparison with these youngsters who can’t discuss in regards to the future. They don’t even exist. What I did is nothing. I really feel I’m just a little bit forward of time. All people would say no matter I mentioned was very conservative. It’s not controversial in any respect.

Afterwards you advised The Artwork Newspaper: “My father suffered unfair therapy and virtually misplaced his life merely due to his angle. If he’d misplaced his life, I might not exist. I’ve at all times regarded free expression as the worth most value preventing for.”

Freedom of speech is a vital aspect for human beings; we’ve one thing in our thoughts and we categorical it. It’s not about proper or mistaken however actually about how honest a person could be and likewise how a lot we will belief the environment. So in fact, in lots of locations individuals have realized that freedom of speech brings catastrophe. My father proved that.

Are you unhappy in regards to the more and more authoritarian regime in Hong Kong?

In the meanwhile I really feel a way of loss. The individuals we interviewed in Hong Kong, after we made the movie [Cockroach, 2020], they’ve all ended up in jail. I feel it’s the perfect movie about Hong Kong however no movie pageant needs to point out it. We made movies in regards to the pandemic. No movie pageant needs to point out it as a result of China is the most important movie market. China has a long-term technique, it’s taking part in the lengthy recreation.

When The Artwork Newspaper interviewed you in 2020, you had been requested in regards to the presence of European museums in China. You mentioned that Western museums are in China purely for self-development causes. There are nonetheless reportedly one million Uyghurs held in camps there—do you discover that imbalance distressing?

I by no means have excessive expectations about [such] museums. The tradition sector within the West is fairly corrupt. In the event you don’t combat for reality, how are you going to present ethical justice—that is loopy.

• Ai Weiwei: Three Completely Proportioned Spheres and Camouflage Uniforms Painted White, Pavilion 13, Expo Heart of Ukraine, Kyiv, till 30 November